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Credit: http://old.bemsee.net/tech/setup.html
A lot of the information here came from The Suspension Setup for sportbikes
website so it only seems fair to mention it here even if it seems to have
vanished from the web.
There's also a lot of other information I've gleaned from various sites over
the years. Please, if any of this informatin is yours and you feel I'm
infringing your copyright, let me know
and I'll either respect the copyright or remove the information at your request.
Ta.
Introduction
Unfortunately there is no literature that can give you the perfect machine
setup. Also suspension setup is individually dependent on the rider (style,
preference) and track conditions, which vary from race to race. We can therefore
only try to give you guidelines and ground rules for the chassis setup of your
machine.
General guideline
The general guideline in road racing isthat the suspension has to support the
tyres to create the best possible grip. For this reason suspension plays it's
most important role in corners, chicanes, acceleration and braking. In the
straight line the suspension works satisfactory if it can absorb the bumps
without causing instability.
Suspension stroke
A road race bike should normally not use its full suspension stroke, although
on some circuit one or two big bumps or hollows can cause the suspension to
bottom. Also landing of front wheel after wheelies can cause excessive use of
the front fork stroke. If suspension bottoms in big bump or hollow, it should
not automatically mean that the suspension should be set more hard. However,
if suspension bottoms at the place were the maximum grip is essential the tyre
cannot create the best traction, because it also has to perform as spring.
Adjusting the setting is necessary. During every riding session the suspension
stroke should be carefully checked.When tyre grip and lap times improve, the
suspension has a harder job. So, setting must be set harder. On the
opposite, when it starts raining tyre grip and lap times go down, in that case a
softer setting should be applied.
Suspension setup
Before starting suspension setup, read the owners manual!
A tip, do your changes in suspension setup one by one, try to learn what effect
each individual adjustment has on your bike and take notes!
Static sag without rider
Hold the bike upright on a flat surface. Independently lift front and rear
until the suspension is fully extended, the value should be approximately:
| Type |
Front sag |
Rear sag |
| Super Bike |
20-30 mm |
5-10 mm |
| Super Sport |
20-30 mm |
5-10 mm |
| RR 250 |
15-25 mm |
0-5 mm |
| RR125 |
15-25 mm |
Just top out 0 mm |
Note: An RR 125 cannot afford to loose the momentum that the sag would give
in a straight line (loss of top speed). The static sag is adjusted by the spring
preload. The procedure is the same for the front fork and rear shock
Static sag with rider
The accepted manner to adjust the spring ratio is to measure how
much stroke is used with the rider sitting on the bike in straight
line position (behind fairing) after you have set the correct static
sag without rider. Normally 1/3 of the full stroke is a good starting
point for all machines. This is only a guide line for the right spring
ratio. The final check must be done on the circuit.
Note: Ohlins racing shocks features a "top-out" spring to
prevent the shock from extending to quickly, causing the rear wheel to
jump under braking. The top-out spring also effects the negative sag,
making it difficult to adjust the sag with the shock on the bike.
Your Ohlins shock is delivered with the correct spring preload set
and we recommend you to use this value for the basic setup. Ride
height should be adjusted with the ride height adjuster on the bike or
on the shock.
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Rebound damping
*Rear suspension
Too much rebound damping can cause:
- The rear "jumps" on the bumps instead of following the
surface.
- The rear "jutters" under braking.
- It holds the rear down with the result that the bike will understeer!
- It can cause overheating in the hydraulic system of the shock
absorber and make it fade, in other words, it will loose damping when
hot.
Too little rebound damping can cause:
- The rear "tops out" too fast under braking, causing the
rear wheel to jump
- The bike feels unstable.
*Front suspension
Too much rebound damping can cause:
- Oversteering!
- It will give poor grip of the front tyre.
- It feels like the front wheels will tuck under in corners.
Too little rebound damping can cause:
- Understeer!
- The front can feel unstable.
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Compression damping
Rear suspension
Too much compression damping can cause:
- The rear wheel to slide under acceleration .
-It can give a harsh ride over bumps.
Too little compression damping can cause:
- The rear wheel start to bump sideways under acceleration out of the
corner.
- The bike will squad too much (rear is too low), that will cause the
front to loose grip.
Front suspension
Too much compression damping can cause:
- Good result during braking.
- Feels harsh over the bumps.
Too little compression damping can cause:
- Strong diving of the front.
Adjustment advice:
Compression damping should be adjusted together with front fork oil
level.
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Spring ratio
Rear
Too hard spring ratio:
- Gives easy turning into corners.
- Makes the rear feel harsh.
- Create poor rear wheel traction.
Too soft spring ratio:
- Gives good traction in acceleration.
- Creates understeer in entry of corner.
- Makes too much suspension travel which will make it difficult to
"flick" the bike from one side to the other in a chicane.
- Will give a light feeling in the front.
Front
Too hard spring ratio:
- Good under braking.
- Creates understeer.
- It feels harsh in the corners.
Too soft spring ratio:
- Gives easy turning into corners.
- Creates oversteer.
- Can cause front to tuck under.
- Bad under braking (diving).
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Front fork oil level
First see manual. The modern front fork of cartridge type is very
sensitive for oil Ievel changes, because of the small air volume Air
inside the front fork works as a spring. The different level of oil
effects the spring ratio from the middle of the stroke and has a very
strong effect at the end of the stroke.
When the oil level is raised:
The air spring in the later half stage of travel is stronger, and thus
the front forks harder.
When the oil level is lowered:
The air spring in the later half stage of travel is lessened, and thus
the front forks are softer. The oil level works most effectively at
the end of the fork travel.
Note: Adjust the oil level according to your
manual.
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BASIC
SETUP - Check the following first:
 | Forks/Rear Shock - Race sag 25-30 mm, 1 - 1 3/16
inch
 | Forks/Rear Shock - Street sag 30-35 mm, 1 3/16 -
1 3/8 inch
 | Check chain alignment. If not correct, sprocket
wear is increased.
 | Proper tire balance and pressure. If out of
balance, there will be vibration in either wheel
 | Steering head bearings and torque specifications,
If too loose, head will shake at high speeds.
 | Front end alignment. Check wheel alignment with
triple clamps. If out of alignment, fork geometry will be incorrect and
steering will suffer.
 | Crash damage, check for proper frame geometry. |
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TROUBLESHOOTING
FORK DAMPING PROBLEMS
Fork Adjustment
Locations:
 | Rebound adjustment (if applicable) is located
near the top of the fork.
 | Compression adjustment (if applicable) is located
near the bottom of the fork.
 | Spring preload adjustment (if applicable) is
generally hex style and located at the top of the fork. |
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Forks - Lack of Rebound:
Symptoms
 | Forks are plush, but increasing speed causes loss
of control and traction.
 | The motorcycle wallows exiting the turn causing
fading traction and loss of control.
 | When taking a corner a speed, you experience
front-end chatter, loss of traction and control.
 | Aggressive input at speed lessons control and
chassis attitude suffers.
 | Front end fails to recover after aggressive input
over bumpy surfaces. |
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Solution
Insufficient rebound - Increase
rebound "gradually" until control and traction are optimized and
chatter is gone.
Forks - Too
Much Rebound:
Symptoms
 | Front end feels locked up resulting in harsh
ride.
 | Suspension packs in and fails to return, giving a
harsh ride.
 | Typically after the first bump, the bike will
skip over subsequent bumps.
 | With acceleration, the front end will tank slap
or shake violently due to lack of front wheel tire contact. |
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Solution
Too much rebound - Decrease rebound
"gradually" until control and traction are optimized.
Forks - Lack of
Compression:
Symptoms
 | Front-end dives severely, sometimes bottoming out
over heavy bumps or during aggressive breaking
 | Front feels soft or vague similar to lack of
rebound.
 | When bottoming, a clunk is heard. This is due to
reaching the bottom of fork travel. |
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Solution
Insufficient compression - Increase
"gradually" until control and traction are optimized.
Forks - Too Much
Compression:
Symptoms
 | Front end rides high through the corners, causing
the bike to steer wide. It should ride in the middle of suspension travel.
 | Front wheel bounces over bumps while ripples and
bumps are felt directly in the triple clamps and through the chassis.
 | Ride is generally hard, and gets even harder when
braking or entering turns. |
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Solution
Too much compression - Decrease
compression "gradually" until the bike neither bottoms or rides
high, and control and traction are optimized.
Symptom
 | Front end chatters or shakes entering turns. This
is due to incorrect oil height and/or too much low speed compression damping |
Solution
First, verify that oil height is
correct. If correct, then decrease compression "gradually" until
chattering and shaking ceases.

TROUBLESHOOTING
SHOCK DAMPING PROBLEMS
Shock Adjustment Locations:
 | Rebound adjustment (if applicable) is located at
the bottom of the shock.
 | Compression adjustment (if applicable) is located
at the top of the shock or on the reservoir.
 | Spring preload is located at the top of the
shock. |
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Shock - Lack of Rebound:
Symptoms
 | The ride will feel soft or vague and as speed
increases, the rear end will want to wallow and/or weave over bumpy surfaces
and traction suffers.
 | Loss of traction will cause rear end to pogo or
chatter due to shock returning too fast on exiting a corner. |
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Solution
Insufficient rebound - Increase rebound until
wallowing and weaving disappears and control and traction are optimized.
Shock - Too Much Rebound:
Symptoms
 | Ride is harsh, suspension control is limited and
traction is lost.
 | Rear end will pack down, forcing the bike wide in
corners, due to rear squat. It will slow steering because front end is
riding high.
 | When rear end packs in, tires generally will
overheat and will skip over bumps.
 | When chopping throttle, rear end will tend to
skip or hop on entries. |
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Solution
Too much rebound - Decrease rebound
"gradually" until harsh ride is gone and traction is regained.
Decrease rebound to keep rear end from packing.
Shock - Lack of
Compression:
Symptoms
 | The bike will not turn in entering a turn.
 | With bottoming, control and traction are lost.
 | With excessive rear end squat, when accelerating
out of corners, the bike will tend to steer wide. |
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Solution
Insufficient compression - Increase
compression "gradually until traction and control is optimized and/or
excessive rear end squat is gone.
Shock - Too Much
Compression:
Symptoms
 | Ride is harsh, but not as bad as too much
rebound. As speed increases, so does harshness.
 | There is very little rear end squat. This will
cause loss of traction/sliding. Tire will overheat.
 | Rear end will want to kick when going over medium
to large bumps. |
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Solution
Too much compression - Decrease
compression until harshness is gone. Decrease compression until sliding stops
and traction is regained.


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 | Front Fork
Problems |
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 | Possible Cure |
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 | Race sag too small - |
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 | Reduce preload. |
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 | Race sag too great - |
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 | Increase preload. |
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 | Forks compress too far on smooth
turns - |
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 | Stiffer springs, increase preload. |
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 | Forks dive too far (bottom out) - |
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 | Stiffer springs, reduce air gap,
possibly increase preload. |
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 | Always losing front end on corner
entry - |
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 | Softer springs, adjust weight
distribution. |
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 | Front end chatters coming out of
corners - |
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 | Softer rebound springs or main
springs, reduce damping. |
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 | Bike difficult to turn in - |
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 | Softer springs, reduce preload or
compression damping, alter steering geometry |
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 | Front wheel skips on bumps - |
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 | Softer springs, reduce compression
damping, increase air gap. |
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 | Forks judder when braking on a
straight - |
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 | Reduce compression damping. |
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 | Forks dive too fast - |
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 | Increase compression damping. |
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 | Forks pump down on fast bumpy
corners - |
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 | Reduce rebound damping. |
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 | Excessive pogo action through
chicanes - |
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 | Slightly increase rebound damping. |
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 | Front end shakes (not chatters) in
corners - |
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 | Increase rebound damping. |
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 | Front end shoots up too fast after
braking - |
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 | Increase rebound damping. |
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 | Rear Shock
Problems |
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 | Possible Cure |
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 | Race sag too great - |
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 | Increase preload. |
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 | Race sag too small - |
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 | Reduce preload. |
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 | Rear squats on acceleration - |
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 | Stiffer spring, increase anti-squat
angle, slightly increase compression damping. |
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 | Very Harsh ride over ripples - |
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 | Reduce compression damping. |
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 | Bike wallows - |
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 | Increase rebound damping. |
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 | Rear jacks up too fast on braking
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 | Increase rebound damping. |
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 | Rear end chatters exiting slow
corners - |
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 | Increase rebound damping. |
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 | Bike kicks off ripples or bounces
on bumps - |
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 | Increase rebound damping. |
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 | Rear end pumps down on bumpy
corners - |
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 | Reduce rebound damping. |
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LACK
OF COMPRESSION DAMPING ( Front Fork )
 | Front end dive while on
the brakes becomes excessive.
 | Rear end of motorcycle wants to "come around"
when using front brakes aggressively.
 | Front suspension "bottoms out" with a solid
hit under heavy braking and after hitting bumps.
 | Front end has a mushy and semi-vague feeling, similar
to lack of rebound damping. |
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TOO
MUCH COMPRESSION DAMPING ( Front Fork )
 | Overly harsh ride, especially right at the point when
bumps and ripples are contacted by the front wheel.
 | Bumps and ripples are felt directly - the initial hit
is routed through the chassis instantly, with big bumps bouncing the tire
off the pavement.
 | The bike's ride height is affected negatively - the
front end winds up riding too high in the corners.
 | Brake dive is reduced drastically, though the chassis
is upset significantly by bumps encountered during braking. |
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LACK OF REBOUND
DAMPING ( Front Fork )
 | The fork offers a supremely plush ride, especially when
riding straight up. However, when the pace picks up the feeling of
control is lost. The fork feels mushy, and traction "feel"
is poor.
 | After hitting bumps at speed, the front tire tends to
chatter or bounce.
 | When flicking the bike into a corner at speed, the bike
will tend to "porpoise" or wallow a bit, before settling down.
Getting aggressive with the controls makes it worse. As speed
increases and steering inputs become more aggressive, chassis attitude and
pitch become a real problem, with the front traction feedback going numb
after the bike is countersteered hard into a turn. |
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TOO MUCH REBOUND
DAMPING ( Front Fork )
 | The ride is quite harsh - just the opposite of the
plush feet of too little rebound. Rough pavement makes the forks feel
as if they're locking up with stiction and harshness.
 | Under hard acceleration exiting bumpy corners, the
front end feels like it wants to "wiggle" or "tankslap."
The tire feels as if it isn't staying in contact with the pavement when on
the gas.
 | The harsh, unforgiving ride makes the bike hard to
control when riding through dips and rolling bumps at speed. The
suspension's reluctance to maintain tire traction through these sections
erodes rider confidence. |
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LACK OF
COMPRESSION DAMPING ( Rear Shock )
 | Too much rear end "squat" under acceleration
- bike wants to steer wide exiting corners (since chassis is riding
rear-low/nose-high).
 | Hitting bumps at speed causes the rear to bottom, which
upsets the chassis.
 | Chassis attitude affected too much by large dips and
"G-outs" - steering and control become difficult due to excessive
suspension movement. |
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TOO
MUCH COMPRESSION DAMPING ( Rear Shock )
 | Ride is harsh, though not quite as bad as too much
rebound - however, the faster you go the worse it gets.
 | Harshness hurts rear tire traction over bumps,
especially during deceleration.
 | There is very little rear end "squat" under
acceleration.
 | Medium to large bumps are felt directly through the
chassis - when hit at speed, the rear end kicks up. |
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LACK
OF REBOUND DAMPING ( Rear Shock )
 | The ride is plush at cruising speeds, but as the pace
increases, the chassis begins to wallow and weave through bumpy corners.
 | Poor traction over bumps under hard acceleration - rear
tire starts to chatter due to lack of wheel control.
 | Excessive chassis pitch through large bumps and dips at
speed - rear end rebounds too fast, upsetting chassis with a pogo-stick
action. |
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TOO
MUCH REBOUND DAMPING ( Rear Shock )
 | Very harsh ride - rear suspension compliance is poor
and "feel" is vague.
 | Poor traction over bumps during hard acceleration (due
to lack of suspension compliance).
 | Bike wants to run wide in corners since the rear end is
"packing down" - this forces a nose-high chassis attitude, which
slows down steering.
 | Rear end wants to hop and skip when the throttle is
chopped during aggressive corner entries. |
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